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Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« on: April 04, 2017, 12:41:08 PM »
Sonic State have a sneak peak of the new Waldorf Quantum eight voice hybrid synthesizer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phi8zPZcWtw
« Last Edit: January 27, 2018, 04:20:03 AM by Paul Dither »

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 01:44:40 PM »
I just sold both of my yellow Qs, such serendipitous timing! :D
Sequential / DSI / Pioneer stuff: Prophet 12 Desktop, Mono Evolver Keyboard, TORAIZ AS-1, Prophet-600 Gligli, Prophet 2000

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 02:55:20 PM »
Its definitely an interesting voice architecture with lovely complex digital oscillators and dual filters. Unlike the Evolver the tuned feedback seems be an oscillator mode here (right?). Another great idea is the USB master port so that modern controllers can be connected directly to the instrument. Hope MPE will be supported! Yet another synthesizer with touch screen. Like that design direction. Alex Hartmann did the front panel design.

Overall impression? Definitely a step in the right direction!

Next thought: Hope a certain synthesizer manufacturer will take up the challenge to make a interesting new hybrid voice architecture.
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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2017, 08:50:29 PM »
Its definitely an interesting voice architecture with lovely complex digital oscillators and dual filters. Unlike the Evolver the tuned feedback seems be an oscillator mode here (right?). Another great idea is the USB master port so that modern controllers can be connected directly to the instrument. Hope MPE will be supported! Yet another synthesizer with touch screen. Like that design direction. Alex Hartmann did the front panel design.

Overall impression? Definitely a step in the right direction!

Next thought: Hope a certain synthesizer manufacturer will take up the challenge to make a interesting new hybrid voice architecture.

I'd love to see a Bitimbral Prophet VS upgrade with Prophet 2000 samples included.
Prophet 6, Prophet X, Oberheim Two Voice Pro, Moog Sub 37, Tempest Drum Computer, Roland V Piano,Kurzweil K2600XS, Roland FA-08, Baldwin Upright Piano, Fender Stratocaster, Fender Telecaster, Gibson Chet Atkins SST, Jackson King V, Ibanez Jem, Roger Linn Adrenalinn iii

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2017, 06:49:55 AM »
Its definitely an interesting voice architecture with lovely complex digital oscillators and dual filters. Unlike the Evolver the tuned feedback seems be an oscillator mode here (right?). Another great idea is the USB master port so that modern controllers can be connected directly to the instrument. Hope MPE will be supported! Yet another synthesizer with touch screen. Like that design direction. Alex Hartmann did the front panel design.

Overall impression? Definitely a step in the right direction!

Next thought: Hope a certain synthesizer manufacturer will take up the challenge to make a interesting new hybrid voice architecture.

I'd love to see a Bitimbral Prophet VS upgrade with Prophet 2000 samples included.

Err Multi-Timbral I mean
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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2017, 06:54:24 AM »
As far as the Quantum itself. It's interesting. I would say I personally am a bit more sold on the John Bowen Solaris as far as this type of sound structure.

As far as being a hybrid...honestly...I think the JDXA is a bit more enjoyable because of it's sequencer and while it may not be as easy to program it offers a bit more of a winder sonic pallet with the Supernatural Digital Samples/Sounds. To my ears the Quantum just sounds like a Blofeld.
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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 12:20:23 PM »
This is a synth that can compete with the Prophet 12 I think. I like the filter possibilities of the unit. The formant filter would be super useful, and did I hear in the video there was a filter that could emulate a resonant cavity?

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 03:57:52 PM »
The only thing that could save me from buying an instrument like this is that a manufacturer takes us the same thing as a high end hybrid sampler...

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2017, 04:22:54 PM »
Renderings are online:




Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2017, 04:47:19 PM »
I like the order and the size.  Lots of room for the hands and the mind.

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 04:56:27 PM »


It certainly takes a few design cues from the 20 unit, for sure.
Sequential / DSI / Pioneer stuff: Prophet 12 Desktop, Mono Evolver Keyboard, TORAIZ AS-1, Prophet-600 Gligli, Prophet 2000

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2017, 02:18:03 AM »
More actual images:











Looks good so far:
- 4 different synth engines (wavetable synthesis based on Nave, including its speech synthesizer, VA, granular sampling, and a resonant filter bank as it is known from physical modeling, although the latter is not the goal of the designers - at least not in terms of emulating strings, etc).
- 6 LFOs and 6 envelopes
- color-coded LEDs indicate modulation and signal routings
- TP-8 Fatar keyboard
- freely assignable voices for bi-timbral mode (4-4, 3-5, 2-6, 1-7 and vice versa)

What has yet to be seen is how far the sampling option goes, i.e. whether the Quantum could also technically be used as a traditional sampler.

Rolf Wöhrmann indicated that after reading through the forums he might now think about implementing more timbrality, maybe 4 times, maybe even with the according physical outputs. But he has to look into that. Interestingly, the "Digital Former" section seems to be very much inspired by the Character Section of the Prophet 12 and Pro 2. At least, it's supposed to do pretty much the same, just after the filters this time.

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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 03:12:36 AM »
Somehow my subconciousness knew something in this direction would come from Waldorf at some time... some kind of modern hardware Microwave III... but this is just perfect for my usage! ... It will make both my Blofeld and MWII obsolete in my studio, it will give me the 5 octaves FATAR keybed I have been wanting for some time, it'll give me modern wavetablesynthesis, and even sampling capabilities which I have been waiting for from DSI for a long time... and then top that of with eight dual analog filters, nice SD card storage etc...

I have started saving up... this is my number one priority now... as simple as that! :)

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 03:19:37 AM »
It would have been nice to include an on board sequencer...something I felt the Blofeld could have used. It also would have been nice to have linear FM synthesis as well. I honestly would rather that than a VA engine cause VA at this price point is silly when you could get real analog synthesis (VCO or DCO) for the same amount.

If included this could be sort of a modern Synclavier (in terms of sound quality).
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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2017, 06:16:41 AM »
Somehow my subconciousness knew something in this direction would come from Waldorf at some time... some kind of modern hardware Microwave III... but this is just perfect for my usage! ... It will make both my Blofeld and MWII obsolete in my studio, it will give me the 5 octaves FATAR keybed I have been wanting for some time, it'll give me modern wavetablesynthesis, and even sampling capabilities which I have been waiting for from DSI for a long time... and then top that of with eight dual analog filters, nice SD card storage etc...

I have started saving up... this is my number one priority now... as simple as that! :)

If it is in fact a FATAR TP/8SK (with weighted keys and the characteristic dogleg shape), as has been alluded to in other forums, then it would definitely be an excellent master controller (if you end up bothering to shift your focus to something else while using it).

I'm really fortunate that I dodged a bullet by selling my (two) Q keyboards last month–otherwise, it'd be an uphill battle to compete with something like this, even at a reduced price. I had my eyes on a Q+ at one point, but this basically closes that door and opens a much larger one.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2017, 06:32:31 AM by DavidDever »
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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 12:46:24 PM »
The multitimbrality comments by the designer intrigue me. Just a general question to the electrical engineers out there: Why are there no analog dynamically assigned multitimbral keyboards out there? With 12 voices and dynamic assignment you could do some serious electronica and some small orchestral classical pieces.

I suppose one issue is that you'd probably want an output per timbre, which would mean you'd have to have a dynamic analog crossbar switch. Otherwise you'd need to apply effects on the synthesizer and pipe all of it through stereo outputs.

Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2017, 01:17:21 PM »
The multitimbrality comments by the designer intrigue me. Just a general question to the electrical engineers out there: Why are there no analog dynamically assigned multitimbral keyboards out there?

Well, there is at least one software engineer in here going Very Interesting Problem (TM) on making such a piece of voice management software for an analog/hybrid synthesizer. As with any development project there be plenty of dragons just waiting to attack at most inconvenient time. But it would surely be cool if it was a standard feature.
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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2017, 01:30:20 PM »
The multitimbrality comments by the designer intrigue me. Just a general question to the electrical engineers out there: Why are there no analog dynamically assigned multitimbral keyboards out there? With 12 voices and dynamic assignment you could do some serious electronica and some small orchestral classical pieces.

I suppose one issue is that you'd probably want an output per timbre, which would mean you'd have to have a dynamic analog crossbar switch. Otherwise you'd need to apply effects on the synthesizer and pipe all of it through stereo outputs.

That crossbar could get noisy, if not properly implemented, for what is effectively small gain compared to "minus" assignment (programmatically removed from stereo mix outs, a la the Tempest).
Sequential / DSI / Pioneer stuff: Prophet 12 Desktop, Mono Evolver Keyboard, TORAIZ AS-1, Prophet-600 Gligli, Prophet 2000

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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2017, 04:43:42 PM »
I have started saving up... this is my number one priority now... as simple as that! :)


You and me both.  Very impressive bit of gear.
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Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2017, 05:00:55 AM »
It does look nice.

After buying a Blofeld I decided never to give them any more of my money but maybe it is time to bury the hatch!