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Prophet 12 Music

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2016, 04:15:03 PM »
I have to say Sacred Synthesis that I think I begin to appreciate your point of view. I am a huge fan of the P12 because I want to do new stuff. As I did with my (now knackered) DX7 I always want to make unique sounds, and the P12 is fantastic for that. I was so pleased with results that I had not focussed on the traditional sounds which sounded OK to me but uninspiring, like most of the presets. Over the last 2 years I have listened to your examples and can detect some difference in the qualities of P12 versus older sounds, which does not affect me, but I can imagine would annoy more traditional synth fans.
 I used to think you were being too picky whereas I now realise that we are both paying attention to different subtleties from different perspectives. Thank you for broadening my outlook  :)

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2016, 04:37:10 PM »
Just one man's opinion.

You are preaching for at least one convinced! ;)

I have to agree with Chaparral. One better consider Prophet 12 as a machine for mostly digital sounds with a little Curtis polish. Had it just had analog filter feedback for tone shaping and analog oscillators for extra sonic foundation. I do get the instrument designers artistic vision but I also disagree somewhat with it.

This is what da robot had to say on the topic:
http://forum.davesmithinstruments.com/index.php/topic,875.msg10430.html#new
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2016, 07:53:00 PM »
I have to say Sacred Synthesis that I think I begin to appreciate your point of view. I am a huge fan of the P12 because I want to do new stuff. As I did with my (now knackered) DX7 I always want to make unique sounds, and the P12 is fantastic for that. I was so pleased with results that I had not focussed on the traditional sounds which sounded OK to me but uninspiring, like most of the presets. Over the last 2 years I have listened to your examples and can detect some difference in the qualities of P12 versus older sounds, which does not affect me, but I can imagine would annoy more traditional synth fans.
 I used to think you were being too picky whereas I now realise that we are both paying attention to different subtleties from different perspectives. Thank you for broadening my outlook  :)

Thanks for that very honest and even humble post, Chaparral.  After thinking about it, I had intended when I got back home tonight to delete my previous post if there were no comments following it, because - believe it or not - I hate raining on someone else's party.  I don't mean to criticize an instrument that other people enjoy, and that includes DSI themselves, who are naturally and justifiably quite proud of their instruments.  But it seems impossible to dismiss the subject, since it's a natural one and unavoidable on a DSI synth forum, and especially in light of the fact that other people continue to post such videos and make such claims.  My main interest is not to put down anything or anyone, but only to establish a correct assessment of an instrument that cannot but attract me, if for no other reason, due to its size.  Being such a tremendous fan of DSI synthesizers, and loving large instruments like the Prophet 12, why else would I speak negatively about it?  It's my loss, that I don't care for it.

It might be obvious now why I would be interested in discussions about future DSI synthesizers, including a possible successor to the Prophet '08.
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2016, 08:06:23 PM »
I have to agree with Chaparral. One better consider Prophet 12 as a machine for mostly digital sounds with a little Curtis polish. Had it just had analog filter feedback for tone shaping and analog oscillators for extra sonic foundation. I do get the instrument designers artistic vision but I also disagree somewhat with it.

There's no shame in this.  It is what it is.  The Prophet 12 is great at some things but not at other things, just like my Prophet '08 and every other synthesizer.  I only wish the claims made about it were more accurate and helpful to those of us who have had to assess it from afar. 

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2017, 10:43:30 AM »
Little Demo of the Prophet-12. Drums from TR-8, no external effects, just the machines.

http://soundcloud.com/lesartsnouveaux/p12-the-joy-of-12

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2017, 12:45:29 AM »
Here is a new patch demo from me, these patches all have Poly AT programmed
I will release the patch set this weekend (25th) and i will post a new demo on that day

https://soundcloud.com/bobswans/bob-swans-p12-patches-2-available-soon

Enjoy

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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2017, 09:24:09 PM »
Here is my latest with primarily P-12.  A little P-08 in the rhythm and the percussive sounds are DX-7.

Enjoy!

https://soundcloud.com/jdt9517/2017-02-19-waltz

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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2017, 11:50:59 AM »

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2017, 11:02:33 AM »
Hi all, I just finished my recording of Holst's "The Planets" suite using only my P12 module (and a touch of reverb from the Roland VS1880 recorder).  I created most of the patches myself, but a couple presets were just way too cool to ignore so I tweaked them a bit and just had to use them as well ;) 

I grew up with 70's prog so analog synth sounds are what I like best and my very 1st synth was a 1983 Sequential Pro One!  I know many people say the P12 can't do analog, but I'm insanely happy with it's ability to produce both the fat analog that I love and the digital crazy stuff as well.  With 4 OSC/4 LFO/4 env/4 delay and the modulation matrix, I really think of my P12 as the dream polyphonic modular I could never have afforded to build myself one module at a time  8)

I've uploaded my recording of "Mercury" to Soundcloud:

https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/prophet-12-mercury?in=dennis-m-366105599/sets/prophet-12

I like to put a lot of stereo movement into my patches so listening with headphones is the best way to really hear what I'm trying to accomplish.  Either way, I'd be interested in what other P12 owners think of my effort  ;)
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2017, 11:53:30 AM »
Welle, it sounds... very 70's :D

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2017, 02:12:07 PM »
Welle, it sounds... very 70's :D

Thanks!  That's what I like  8) 

Funny, I did Pictures at an Exhibition and an album of Halloween themed classical pieces a few years ago on my Korg Radias and shared it with a pedal steel guitar playing friend.  His reply was that he hated it because it sounded like those awful 70's Tomita classical adaptations.  I thanked him for the compliment   ;)
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2017, 09:32:10 PM »
@WytchCrypt- I really liked it.  You developed some good sounds on the P-12.  I like 70's too!

I had never really listened to Holst before.   So, I listened to the whole Planets suite on Youtube.  I didn't realize what I had been missing.   He was definitely influenced by Wagner. 

I am becoming more and more impressed with the P-12.  It's capabilities are amazing.

Thanks for sharing!
Jim Thorburn .  Toys-  Dave Smith: Prophet 08;
Pro 2; Prophet 12; EastWest Orchestral soft synths; Yamaha S90; Yamaha DX-7; KARP Odyssey; Ensoniq ESQ-1.  All run through a Sonar DAW with a Tascam DM-24 board.

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2017, 11:43:21 AM »
@WytchCrypt- I really liked it.  You developed some good sounds on the P-12.  I like 70's too!

I had never really listened to Holst before.   So, I listened to the whole Planets suite on Youtube.  I didn't realize what I had been missing.   He was definitely influenced by Wagner. 

I am becoming more and more impressed with the P-12.  It's capabilities are amazing.

Thanks for sharing!

Thank you for your kind words!  After getting through the learning curve I've found that developing new P12 voices is almost as much fun as playing them  8)  I think I also took it as a challenge because there are so many anti-P12 posts out on other forums who claim it can't do vintage analog sounds.  I think it's a brilliant synth because it can do so many things so well and has so many mod matrix options.

Re: The Planets, other than Mars (which I knew well from King Crimson & ELP's cover versions) I had never heard any of the other pieces before recording them with the P12.  It was great fun to discover them this way and I was blown away by the compositions.  I'd been aware of the work forever but had no idea it was so cool!  The style reminds me a lot of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition and Night on Bald Mountain along with Saint-Sens' Dance Macabre.  I believe these are often referred to as "symphonic tone poems".  Very cool melodies and harmonies going on all over the place with a dash of dissonance here and there to spice things up  ;)

I'm always on the lookout for other similarly styled classical pieces to do a P12 adaptation on...anyone have suggestions?
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2017, 01:26:17 PM »
I guess you're likely to love this  :-D

https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/prophet-12-old-school-sounds-part-3
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/prophet-12-pads

Very nice.  I especially like the sound on prophet-12-pads beginning at the 31 second mark  ;)
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2017, 10:00:24 AM »
Here's an ambiant track with some P12 dirty dirty Strings.

https://soundcloud.com/baexel/tracking-clouds-by-baexel?in=baexel/sets/my-live-recorded-tracks-1

Thanks. Prophet love

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2017, 06:22:51 AM »
Here is a duet with guitar - Free Improv is not everyones cup of tea, but I thought some live spontaneous Prophet 12 might make a change from the other music here. https://soundcloud.com/user-408885790/id24pm-hedge-s2-t3-1345-1800

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2017, 10:27:24 AM »
Here is a duet with guitar - Free Improv is not everyones cup of tea, but I thought some live spontaneous Prophet 12 might make a change from the other music here. https://soundcloud.com/user-408885790/id24pm-hedge-s2-t3-1345-1800

Totally into it. A welcome bit of variety and my cup of tea indeed!

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2017, 05:59:42 AM »
Here is a remix of Don't Judge Me by Chris Brown.

Every sound is from P12 except Bass and EP.

https://soundcloud.com/kyumin-shim/dont-judge-me-remix-chris-brown


have been thinking to add ob-6 or swap to p6 but I decided to keep p12 since in the mix you can't really hear the difference.. Instead of another poly synth I got Moog Sub37 which is great for Bass and now I'm really happy to have
one great poly and great mono :)


Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2017, 06:58:03 AM »
here is another one :)

instrumental, short track

https://soundcloud.com/kyumin-shim/p12-demo