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Let's Talk Panning Strategies

Let's Talk Panning Strategies
« on: January 10, 2017, 05:19:09 PM »
Hi all, finally getting to do some voice creation and the P12 implementation of panning is taking me a bit of effort to wrap my head around.  I understand there is no hard panning of individual oscillators within a voice because all oscillators run through the same character->filter->VCA path.  Controlling panning seems a challenging prospect...then throw in the modulation source Pan, Pan Spread and 4 Delay Pans and my head is spinning - or is that panning  ;)

I was wondering if others with voice creation experience could comment on how they approach P12 panning to create stereo movement?

Thanks! 
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Re: Let's Talk Panning Strategies
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 12:27:08 AM »
Hi all, finally getting to do some voice creation and the P12 implementation of panning is taking me a bit of effort to wrap my head around.  I understand there is no hard panning of individual oscillators within a voice because all oscillators run through the same character->filter->VCA path.  Controlling panning seems a challenging prospect...then throw in the modulation source Pan, Pan Spread and 4 Delay Pans and my head is spinning - or is that panning  ;)

I was wondering if others with voice creation experience could comment on how they approach P12 panning to create stereo movement?

Thanks!

Almost a year ago and no reply... ???

I have the same question. Can anyone help? How do you handle this?

Re: Let's Talk Panning Strategies
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 01:41:39 PM »

Hi,

usually i take a DC as source to pan the voice out of center. Sometimes let it run back trough center to the other side with Note Number as source for the move. Usually i avoid the moded panning of the delays and place them static. (Otherwise my brain would start to pan like initially mentioned.) Sometimes i use a envelope to let the sound move around a bit.
-try "evolver mode" take your voice pan it relatively hard with the DC, copy it to layer B and pan it on the other side to get a stereo voice in Stack mode to double the crazyness. :) I havent tried to delay the Amp attacks for timing based pan.

Hope this helps,

Martin3

Re: Let's Talk Panning Strategies
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 11:44:16 PM »

Hi,

usually i take a DC as source to pan the voice out of center. Sometimes let it run back trough center to the other side with Note Number as source for the move. Usually i avoid the moded panning of the delays and place them static. (Otherwise my brain would start to pan like initially mentioned.) Sometimes i use a envelope to let the sound move around a bit.
-try "evolver mode" take your voice pan it relatively hard with the DC, copy it to layer B and pan it on the other side to get a stereo voice in Stack mode to double the crazyness. :) I havent tried to delay the Amp attacks for timing based pan.

Hope this helps,

Martin3

Thanks! Sorry, I'm new to synths (and german) - what does DC (design compliant? direct current?) mean in modulation terms?
« Last Edit: November 30, 2017, 01:15:15 AM by Kai-vD »

Re: Let's Talk Panning Strategies
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 01:50:36 AM »

Hi,

usually i take a DC as source to pan the voice out of center. Sometimes let it run back trough center to the other side with Note Number as source for the move. Usually i avoid the moded panning of the delays and place them static. (Otherwise my brain would start to pan like initially mentioned.) Sometimes i use a envelope to let the sound move around a bit.
-try "evolver mode" take your voice pan it relatively hard with the DC, copy it to layer B and pan it on the other side to get a stereo voice in Stack mode to double the crazyness. :) I havent tried to delay the Amp attacks for timing based pan.

Hope this helps,

Martin3

Thanks! Sorry, I'm new to synths (and german) - what does DC (design compliant? direct current?) mean in modulation terms?
And could you please explain "Note Number as source"?

Re: Let's Talk Panning Strategies
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 01:51:10 AM »

Hi,

usually i take a DC as source to pan the voice out of center. Sometimes let it run back trough center to the other side with Note Number as source for the move. Usually i avoid the moded panning of the delays and place them static. (Otherwise my brain would start to pan like initially mentioned.) Sometimes i use a envelope to let the sound move around a bit.
-try "evolver mode" take your voice pan it relatively hard with the DC, copy it to layer B and pan it on the other side to get a stereo voice in Stack mode to double the crazyness. :) I havent tried to delay the Amp attacks for timing based pan.

Hope this helps,

Martin3

Thanks! Sorry, I'm new to synths (and german) - what does DC (design compliant? direct current?) mean in modulation terms?

Check this :)

Re: Let's Talk Panning Strategies
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 03:27:40 AM »

Hi,

usually i take a DC as source to pan the voice out of center. Sometimes let it run back trough center to the other side with Note Number as source for the move. Usually i avoid the moded panning of the delays and place them static. (Otherwise my brain would start to pan like initially mentioned.) Sometimes i use a envelope to let the sound move around a bit.
-try "evolver mode" take your voice pan it relatively hard with the DC, copy it to layer B and pan it on the other side to get a stereo voice in Stack mode to double the crazyness. :) I havent tried to delay the Amp attacks for timing based pan.

Hope this helps,

Martin3

Thanks! Sorry, I'm new to synths (and german) - what does DC (design compliant? direct current?) mean in modulation terms?

Check this :)

Thanks! So only this question is left:
"And could you please explain "Note Number as source"?

Edit: Done. I found a thread with the answer.
https://forum.davesmithinstruments.com/index.php?topic=1795.0
« Last Edit: November 30, 2017, 03:36:24 AM by Kai-vD »