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Prophet Rev2 / Re: Rev2 Derivatives
« Last post by Paul Dither on Today at 12:31:34 PM »
I for one am not confident that there is going to be an Evolver MKII. I would just like the idea of something in that direction. I also wouldn't care about it being called Evolver Rev2 or anything like that. More generally speaking, I'd just be excited to see the return of some Evolver ingredients that didn't make it to the Prophet 12, which in turn was - if I remember correctly - described as a sort of "best of" mix based on the Evolver and Prophet '08 engines when it first appeared at Winter NAMM 2013.

Instead of something that's conceptually closer related to a mix or a "best of", I'd be excited to see a sort of antithesis to the already existing instruments, or something that contains elements that no other DSI synth provides, be it sampling capability, the import of wavetables, so-called vector synthesis, or something we can't currently think of.

What I personally always liked about the Evolver was that it had been developed without anything to prove. Dave just put together a bunch of ingredients that he thought were cool and edgy, and came up with a desktop powerhouse that people either loved or hated. There was always something uncompromising about the Evolver, also because it was obvious why Dave originally decided to call it "Noise". It's sort of his punk synth and I like the attitude behind that.
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Prophet Rev2 / Re: Rev2 Derivatives
« Last post by Sacred Synthesis on Today at 12:06:15 PM »
I'm enthusiastically onboard with the new Evolver idea.  I've been singing that tune for years now.  But the reason I'm skeptical is that DSI has - even very lately - denied that such an instrument as an Evolver Mk II is forthcoming.  So, I'm not sure why you guys are still harping on the topic with some confidence.  I don't want to sound negative, because nothing would thrill me more, but, all recent indications from San Francisco are entirely in the negative.  That Dave sometimes changes his mind is little hope in this case.
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Prophet Rev2 / Re: Rev2 Derivatives
« Last post by Paul Dither on Today at 11:49:11 AM »
I think a new Evolver would be good for a very simple reason: It's different than what's currently on the market now. Especially if you take the concept of the Tempest's synth engine (Two analog oscillators, two digital oscillators including samples-except from the Prophet 2000 instead of the LM-1, LinnDrumm etc)

What else can DSI do in the analog market?

Another monophonic synth? There's enough of those coming out left and right these days. We don't need another one. From Roland to Vermona, DSI's mono will get lost in oversaturation.

Another polyphonic? What else would be different about another poly synth? Multitimbrality? I don't think that'll be in the foreseeable future either from my understanding.

Completely agreed. Hence, I strongly assume that we're probably going to see a hybrid design next. Whether or how much it will be related to the Evolver remains to be seen, though.

Another drum machine? Nah. Leave that to Roger Linn.

It is my understanding that this is going to be his next move anyway: the long planned LinnDrum II.

A standalone DSI sequencer like the old Sequential Programmers?

That market is also already pretty well covered with the fairly popular BeatStep Pro, and dozens of options that arose in the vicinity of Eurorack or analog desktop synths. One could of course develop a model that provides an excessive amount of tracks, something like a standalone Pro 2 sequencer.

Behringer is apparently doing both an OBXa clone and ARP 2600 clone. Although I still think it would be hilarious if they made a Jupiter 8 clone before Roland did.

Roland will never make a Jupiter 8 clone outside of what's already available in the System-8. And it also remains to be seen if Dr. Proton and his tech bots will deliver their promised hordes of clones. So far it was mostly about market interrupting announcements and lots of delays.

Korg is probably going to come out with another mini key synth and do nothing with the ARP name.

No, Korg is said to come out with something bigger next year. Something analog with 8 letters that starts with "P". That's at least what was announced on the Korg microKAST podcast a few months ago. Whether it's going to be purely analog is not clear yet, but apparently they're excited about it.

Moog is probably going to something stupid like offer a limited run "ALL BLACK" Subsequent 37 instead of doing something new.

Haha! No, I think they'll leave it at what it currently is. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if there is not going to be a major announcement at NAMM, since they've been pretty much following their own clock in the past 2 or 3 years, with some announcements only being made at or around Moogfest.

I still say a new Evolver Keyboard from DSI and a sampler keyboard with DSI filters from a collaboration with Pioneer would both blow everything else out of the market based simply on the fact they are different than anything else out there currently. Everything else is just derivative or backtracking instead of advancing forward.

A classic performance oriented sampler outside the beat box form factor is indeed something that's currently missing. Not sure if it's related to that, but even prices for samplers from the 1990s are on the rise on the used market.
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It also would have been nice to have linear FM synthesis as well. I honestly would rather that than a VA engine cause VA at this price point is silly when you could get real analog synthesis (VCO or DCO) for the same amount.

While I agree, linear FM would be more interesting, I'm guessing the decision was due to them wanting to take advantage of the analog filter. Your second statement however makes your interest in the Solaris even more puzzling. Considering it's more expensive than this is going to be and doesn't even have an analog filter. Nor does it have true granular, etc.

Again, if you're looking for linear FM, there's certain better/cheaper options than the Solaris.
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Prophet Rev2 / Re: Rev2 Derivatives
« Last post by Paul Dither on Today at 11:22:43 AM »
How about some more Rev2's?

Prophet 6 Rev2 8 voice with 16voice option
OB-6 Rev2 same voice options
yes it will be wicked expensive!  and big.... :D

Being from 2015 and 2016, the Prophet-6 and the OB-6 still belong to DSI's newer releases, so I wouldn't expect any updated versions of those instruments in a long time. And the wicked and expensive option is already there if you choose to add a desktop module to the keyboard version.
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Prophet Rev2 / Re: Rev2 Derivatives
« Last post by yayajohn on Today at 11:07:15 AM »
How about some more Rev2's?

Prophet 6 Rev2 8 voice with 16voice option
OB-6 Rev2 same voice options
yes it will be wicked expensive!  and big.... :D
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Prophet Rev2 / Re: Rev2 Derivatives
« Last post by LoboLives on Today at 10:20:01 AM »
I think a new Evolver would be good for a very simple reason: It's different than what's currently on the market now. Especially if you take the concept of the Tempest's synth engine (Two analog oscillators, two digital oscillators including samples-except from the Prophet 2000 instead of the LM-1, LinnDrumm etc)

What else can DSI do in the analog market?

Another monophonic synth? There's enough of those coming out left and right these days. We don't need another one. From Roland to Vermona, DSI's mono will get lost in oversaturation.

Another polyphonic? What else would be different about another poly synth? Multitimbrality? I don't think that'll be in the foreseeable future either from my understanding. Dave doesn't seem interested. Even when he was giving his studio tour he said something to the effect of "I'm not going to talk about it cause it's not important." when discussing the Six-Trak being multitimbral.

Another drum machine? Nah. Leave that to Roger Linn.

A standalone DSI sequencer like the old Sequential Programmers? I'd rather they update the OS on the onboard sequencers on their current gear first.

Behringer is apparently doing both an OBXa clone and ARP 2600 clone. Although I still think it would be hilarious if they made a Jupiter 8 clone before Roland did.

Korg is probably going to come out with another mini key synth and do nothing with the ARP name.

Moog is probably going to something stupid like offer a limited run "ALL BLACK" Subsequent 37 instead of doing something new.

I still say a new Evolver Keyboard from DSI and a sampler keyboard with DSI filters from a collaboration with Pioneer would both blow everything else out of the market based simply on the fact they are different than anything else out there currently. Everything else is just derivative or backtracking instead of advancing forward.
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Anyone put a word in for Nord Lead 3? I love mine, the interface and ability to layer 4 patches at once is fantastic.

Not a fan of Nord's keyboards. I like their Nord Drum 3p but that's about it.

For four octaves, four layers only...I'll take the Blofeld over a Nord Lead 1-4 any day.
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Prophet Rev2 / Re: Rev2 Derivatives
« Last post by Sacred Synthesis on Today at 08:33:23 AM »
No gaudy yellow boxes with daft names please.  Dave Smith should play to his strengths not try to compete on the lowest common denominator stuff that just tarnishes the image of the rest of his range.

I'll certainly agree with you there, but everybody goofs up once in a while.  But by contrast with the looks and name of the Mopho Keyboard and Module, the Tetr4 was a dignified looking instrument and also sounded superb.  In other words, those smaller instruments derived from the Prophet '08 could have had names and appearances just as dignified.  The same is true now for the Rev2 and anything derived from it.
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OB-6 / Re: Any tips for using Soundtower librarian?
« Last post by Tarekith on Today at 08:26:45 AM »
I'm actually really impressed with the Soundtower editor, there's a lot more functionality there than I was expecting.  Everything seems to be stable and working perfectly too.  I love being able to use the QWERTY keyboard to play patches while sorting them into custom banks.
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