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Title: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: philroyjenkins on November 18, 2017, 06:35:36 PM
Heh, so some of you might not agree with my choices but its only knobs after all. :D

Personally, I'm loving it so far. The knobs themselves are easier for me to tweak with one finger and I find it easier to quickly tell how they are set at a quick glance. Oh and the giant cutoff knob begs to be tweaked live.

I went with the duo color scheme to further section off certain areas I use more often and I have to say, this was a game changer in the way I experience this synth. I feel like I'm playing the synth more now rather than just making patches and playing those.

(https://i.imgur.com/tn2Popf.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/LKsZHpr.jpg)

Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: chysn on November 18, 2017, 07:01:53 PM
Looks sharp, I like the MXR-style knobs on the Rev2.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: LoboLives on November 18, 2017, 10:36:03 PM
Iíve been tempted to do this on my P6 as I really would like larger knobs on it (ala Moog).
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: dsetto on November 19, 2017, 10:42:48 AM
I can see how those two things can improve functionality. ...
Do the existing knobs simply come off? Is there a dimension you match when finding new knobs?

Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: dslsynth on November 19, 2017, 12:04:44 PM
It looks pretty good! Well, pretty and good! :)
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: DHTech on November 19, 2017, 12:34:36 PM
The only Knob you need to worry about is the one controlling it ;)
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: philroyjenkins on November 20, 2017, 01:22:45 PM
I can see how those two things can improve functionality. ...
Do the existing knobs simply come off? Is there a dimension you match when finding new knobs?

They come off but take a bit of force. I have used vice pliers and a piece of leather to avoid making any marks on the stock knobs. Once I got the process down, they came off pretty quick. The rev2 knobs are most likely 6mm. I used 1/4" shaft knobs because these were the style I wanted. Worked fine though. For the giant cutoff knob I added a little shim to make it sit better.

Thanks everyone, glad you all dig them. I actually thought I'd get some hate on em. Heh. This was kind of a symbolic move for me too since anytime I'm with a piece of gear long enough to know its a keeper, I end up modifying it and making it my own in some way. This was the Rev2s right of passage.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: trashdinner on November 21, 2017, 08:34:18 AM
It's really sexy! How did you decide what knobs were white and what knobs were black?
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: dsetto on November 22, 2017, 07:04:20 AM
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: philroyjenkins on November 24, 2017, 09:44:14 AM
It's really sexy! How did you decide what knobs were white and what knobs were black?

For the most part based on looks, but I wanted my resonance knob to be white like the cutoff and I only wanted the ADSR of the filter section to be white. I don't use delay nearly as often, and even then its not hard to find since its only 1 left of the white attack knob. Being able to barely even turn my head yet know which 4 knobs are my ADSR has gotten to be pretty nice.

I've actually changed it since this post to mostly this (https://i.imgur.com/igbw9SX.jpg)

with only the exception of the delay and resonance knobs being switched so that the resonance is white and delay black like i mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: LoboLives on November 24, 2017, 11:28:47 AM
It's really sexy! How did you decide what knobs were white and what knobs were black?

For the most part based on looks, but I wanted my resonance knob to be white like the cutoff and I only wanted the ADSR of the filter section to be white. I don't use delay nearly as often, and even then its not hard to find since its only 1 left of the white attack knob. Being able to barely even turn my head yet know which 4 knobs are my ADSR has gotten to be pretty nice.

I've actually changed it since this post to mostly this (https://i.imgur.com/igbw9SX.jpg)

with only the exception of the delay and resonance knobs being switched so that the resonance is white and delay black like i mentioned earlier.

Don't happen to know what size/style knobs were on the original Prophet 5 do you?
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: philroyjenkins on November 25, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
Don't happen to know what size/style knobs were on the original Prophet 5 do you?

No idea. I did find this though https://i.imgur.com/k8UrgzE.png

So they look to be push on D style which typically have 6mm shaft.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: Murphy on November 28, 2017, 07:36:14 PM
Looks great! I might have to do this too.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: Tom on December 02, 2017, 07:54:21 AM
How did you pull off the knobs safely?


Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: philroyjenkins on December 05, 2017, 07:42:50 AM
How did you pull off the knobs safely?

With care  ;)

Real answer: I used vice pliers with scraps of leather around the knobs so I wouldn't scuff them. They do simply pop off, even though they were tight.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: Kai-vD on December 06, 2017, 11:42:17 PM
You inspired me to do the same with my REV2. I even decided to chose the same knobs, after looking at alot of knobs, because I didn't find any other that would fit better for me on this synth, and they really look and feel nice. So thank you for this great inspiration :)

How did you pull off the knobs safely?

With care  ;)

Real answer: I used vice pliers with scraps of leather around the knobs so I wouldn't scuff them. They do simply pop off, even though they were tight.

I found out that a spoon is also a very helpful tool, to pull the knobs off easily.
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: philroyjenkins on December 07, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
You inspired me to do the same with my REV2. I even decided to chose the same knobs, after looking at alot of knobs, because I didn't find any other that would fit better for me on this synth, and they really look and feel nice. So thank you for this great inspiration :)

Post a picture when you finish! Did you go all black? Or some other color scheme?
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: Kai-vD on December 07, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
You inspired me to do the same with my REV2. I even decided to chose the same knobs, after looking at alot of knobs, because I didn't find any other that would fit better for me on this synth, and they really look and feel nice. So thank you for this great inspiration :)

Post a picture when you finish! Did you go all black? Or some other color scheme?

I orderd the knobs yesterday, so I hope to receive them in a few days...

I'm afrard the picture of my REV2 will look very similar to yours.;) I must confess I followed you in every way: I coundn't think of a better color combination than black and white (creme).:)

(Just one color (all black) woudn't have the helpful effect, to find the desired knob easier/quicker while performing/in the workflow).

Even your idea of the bigger knob for cutoff is so good, that I also overtook that.

So, in my opinion you came up with the far best possibility for re-knobbing. :)

The only aspect where I perhaps will differ is the grouping, so I orderd a few more blacks/whites to be free for other shemes. As I am still quite new to synths I'm not shure about my personal needs in that way yet. But for shure your idea of white knobs for the ADSR's is also great!

I also thought about treating the 10 endless regulators on the REV2 different, as their knobs don't need a mark, and that it could cause slight irritations always seeing a mark there, that points to - nothing defined.
As I didn't find these knobs without a mark, I will perhaps try to paint over the white mark on the black knobs...
Title: Re: So I re-knobbed my REV2
Post by: philroyjenkins on December 11, 2017, 09:22:16 AM
You inspired me to do the same with my REV2. I even decided to chose the same knobs, after looking at alot of knobs, because I didn't find any other that would fit better for me on this synth, and they really look and feel nice. So thank you for this great inspiration :)

Post a picture when you finish! Did you go all black? Or some other color scheme?

I orderd the knobs yesterday, so I hope to receive them in a few days...

I'm afrard the picture of my REV2 will look very similar to yours.;) I must confess I followed you in every way: I coundn't think of a better color combination than black and white (creme).:)

(Just one color (all black) woudn't have the helpful effect, to find the desired knob easier/quicker while performing/in the workflow).

Even your idea of the bigger knob for cutoff is so good, that I also overtook that.

So, in my opinion you came up with the far best possibility for re-knobbing. :)

The only aspect where I perhaps will differ is the grouping, so I orderd a few more blacks/whites to be free for other shemes. As I am still quite new to synths I'm not shure about my personal needs in that way yet. But for shure your idea of white knobs for the ADSR's is also great!

I also thought about treating the 10 endless regulators on the REV2 different, as their knobs don't need a mark, and that it could cause slight irritations always seeing a mark there, that points to - nothing defined.
As I didn't find these knobs without a mark, I will perhaps try to paint over the white mark on the black knobs...

Yeah the black/cream is a super nice look. I was inspired by Vermona stuff. Look em up if you haven't seen it.

I know what you mean about the endless knobs and I considered that issue myself but in practice it really hasn't bothered me. In fact, its somewhat helpful. I know that if I reset the line to the same place on something like the FX selector, I know how I can get to certain effects if I move slow and stop a certain point. hard to explain, but to put it simply, its helped in how I select effects quickly and on the fly.

When I posted this, I wasn't expecting anyone else to try it themselves so I didn't really include any helpful info. I ended up getting 1/4" knobs since that was all I saw available in this style I wanted. They are slightly larger than the 6mm shafts. I got a couple of straws from starbucks because they are the perfect size and a little thicker than most (and because my gf was stopping by there on her way home.)

I cut the straws into a bunch of small pieces that I slid onto the shafts before screwing on the knobs. This helped them sit a little more centered and snug.

The large cutoff knob was a challenge because the screw set was a little higher than the shaft itself. I ended up using some scrap metal (the metal part from where a pencil holds the eraser) and making a shim to get it perfect.

All in all the whole job took a fair amount of troubleshooting but I'm kind of used to that and like I said, I wasn't making a how-to kind of post so I didn't mention a lot of this, I just wanted to show off the final result. Hopefully you don't run into any trouble fitting yours! If you do, just give me a shout.